About Samsung LNT4665F
For people looking to step up to full 1080p resolution in a 46-inch flat-panel LCD, Samsung’s 2007 model LNT4665F is a good choice. Besides offering full 1080p resolution the LNT4665F also features a 15,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio for rich blacks and subltle tecture display, an 8ms response time panel for smooth motion, hidden side speakers, an NTSC tuner, and 3 HDMI ports.
The Samsung Digital Natural Image engine (DNIe) Video Enhancer refines all analog NTSC and wideband video inputs for an overall improvement in picture quality. DNIe improves contrast, white level, picture detail and incorporates digital noise reduction to improve lower quality video inputs. The 3D Y/C digital comb filter constantly analyzes the three dimensions of picture height, picture width, and picture changes-over-time to dramatically reduce edge image artifacts while improving transition detail.
High-quality virtual surround sound can be experienced with just the speakers built into the TV. SRS TruSurround XT technology delivers an amazing, simulated 3D effect with clear dialog and powerful bass through hidden side speakers. TruSurround XT audio adds three audio enhancement technologies to produce an amazingly immersive sound experience.
Samsung LNT4665F reviews by Amazon.com’s customers
Supposed to be excellent by J. Heizman
I don’t normally write reviews without owning a product, however.. I have ordered (the 4661) based off the following:
If you’ve never been to avsforum .com, it is a purely message board/forum style website where every manner of A/V is discussed. There are entire forums dedicated to discussing the various technical aspects of LCDs to Plasmas to projectors. Long story short, there is a month old, mile long thread that has nothing but glowing things to say about Samsung’s LNTXX61 and LNTXX65/66 series of TVs — how it’s refreshing to have a TV that doesn’t have clouding/banding issues. AVSForum is pretty much the site for technophiles, and the positivity is consistent, so it’s not just one or two jokers from Samsung trying to make their product look good.
THAT is the reason I placed the order for this. It has been a long time since a product line has received that much positive review on that site.
Most have said the detail improvement by bumping up to the XX65/6 over the XX61 is subtle. The 4661 has more of a matte finish around the edge whereas the XX65 has a shinier edge — which most have said is not bothersome when watching a show (some were concerned at first because they could see themselves while watching TV but have said overall it doesn’t bother them).
DO NOT get wrapped up in the whole “15000:1 versus 10000:1 contrast ratio” marketing difference. The differences are again much more subtle than manufacturers would have you believe. There are whole articles about how anything over 500:1 in anything but a _completely dark_ room is not noticeable to the naked eye.
Probably the main reason to perhaps go with the XX65 series is due to the apparently “lacking” speakers on the XX61 series. If you do NOT plan to hook this TV to an external sound system, then it may be worth considering the XX65 for the improved built-in speakers. The 65 has them on the sides, the XX61 has them underneath facing downwards and apparently the sound isn’t ideal. Although one might say for the 300 price difference between the two, buy the 61 series and apply that 300 towards a nice stereo receiver like a Yamaha.
I hope this information is helpful, I will add once I receive one myself. But if you’re on the fence, rest assured you are buying the latest and greatest at a great price (come on.. <2500 for a 46″ LCD! Just a year ago that was unheard of) and will NOT be disappointed.
If you need more reassurance, head to AVSForum and read the forum on this TV, but let me save you the trouble, I’ve summarized everything of interest in the above and you’ll find pages and pages of “What a relief it is to have a TV that doesn’t have the problems that plagued the last generation of LCD panels”. The technology has definitely matured with this release.
Take a look at Sony’s V462500, which is a year old. It was a great model from Sony, but at a year old it’s still several hundred more than this set. So the point I’m trying to make is you can feel good about this price.
No better 46″ LCD - period! by B. Reardon
I searched for a flat-screen tv for a couple of months, and finally chose the 4665. I chose the size of the TV based on my room, and decided 50 was too big and 42 too small. This left me without a decision on plasma vs lcd, which was ok with me. Plasma has more basic issues, and going LCD was not a sacrifice - except I had yet to see a LCD with black blacks, so I was not sure what I would see in the 46″ range.
As for price range, I decided that I was going to buy the tv that I was happiest with. It was not that I have unlimited budget, just that I wanted to make sure that I would going to be completely satisfied with a 2-3k purchase. I really only knew about the plasma tv’s in 42″ 720p, so I had a lot of research to do to understand what to buy.
After reading hundreds of reviews and going to several stores to comparison shop, I was basically down to three Samsung models. I was considering the LN-T4665F, LN-T4661F and the LNS4696. Going straight by the specs, the 4665 looked to be the best because of the 15000:1 dynamic contrast ratio. With this in mind, I was confused to see that BestBuy has the 4696 in their Magnolia section and not the 4665 - my only guess is that it is because the 4665 does not have a cableCard slot.
After lots of playing I was more than happy with each of the TVs, and my choices were narrowed down by wanting more hdmi’s right on the set, wanting the best possible contrast, and the glossy screen on the 4665. I have seen several complaints about the glossy screen, however this was a selling feature for me - for the same reason that I ordered a MacBook Pro with the glossy screen - I just think that it makes moves look better. I can deal with reflection during the day to get a picture that I am happier with when watching a movie at night.
I must say that I am extremely impressed so far. I have not had a single image problem yet, and the setup was clearly the worst part of this tv. All-in-all, I am 100% satisfied with this purchase.
So here’s my brief summary of the high/low points:
Pros:
1. (3) HDMI inputs
2. Excellent contrast - forget the numbers, as they are fiction - the blacks are black
3. Glossy screen - movies spectacular - Toy Story is mind-blowing!
4. Weight - This is one of the newer, lighter sets
5. Price - Not that this set was cheap, but I liked this over the Sony and would have spent another $1,000 to get a comparable Sony - and I hate the glass around the Sony’sCons:
1. No cableCard slot - really only matters if you want to mount it on the wallThat’s how I see it. I give this TV my highest endorsement.
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Samsung LNT4665F compare with Samsung LNT4661F
Read some user opinion about Samsung LNT 4665F vs Samsung LNT4661F
“Not only is there a difference in contrast between the 61 Series and 65 Series, of 10,000 vs 15,000. But the 65 Series also has a 10 bit video processor vs a 8 bit video processor on the 61 Series. So your getting both a detail improvement and a wider colour range. The 65 Series is the way to go, expecially considereing the small difference in price.”
“Well garth both are good choices, in my experience the 4665 with 15000:1 contrast vs 4661 with 10000:1 would make a huge difference in your situation if it fits in the budget it is well worth it. Side by side isn’t fair because the 4665 wins easily on an Hd signal.”
“If your room has alot of ambient lighting I would go with the samsung 4661. But if there isn’t lots of lighting definetley go with the Samsung 4665. Another way to stop refelction on the tv is to wall mount it and tilt it downwards.”
“The LN-T4661F is Samsung’s least-expensive 46-inch flat-panel LCD with 1080p native resolution for the 2007 model year. We recently reviewed another 46-inch 1080p LCD HDTV from Samsung, model LN-T4665F, so you may be wondering why we chose to review this one so soon afterward. The answer is shine. We complained about the 65F’s shiny screen because it reflected lots of ambient light, acting more like a mirror than any TV screen we’d seen yet. The 61F’s screen has the standard matte finish, which really cuts down on glare. But between the two, we did feel the LN-T4665F offered slightly better picture quality despite the shine (more on that below), making it a better choice for real home theater buffs and others with a lot of control over room lighting. On the other hand, the LN-T4661F should satisfy people who just can’t stomach glare, and its picture quality, feature set and exterior design are still a cut above most LCDs on the market.”
“Overall performance, the Samsung LN-T4661F came close to the picture quality of its slightly more expensive brother, the LN-T4665F, but the latter earned a better performance score for a couple of reasons. The first is its superior detail in shadows, and the second is its significantly better off-axis viewing characteristics. In most other aspects of picture quality, including depth of black, resolution, color accuracy and saturation, the two were very similar. If you’re more of a home theater stickler who turns off the lights for movies and can control your room’s ambient light in most other situations, then the shiny-screened 65F gets the nod. But if you’re stuck with a bright room or simply don’t want to contend with the glare from the 65F’s screen, the 61F makes a solid choice.”
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